Fines and current situation
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definitely a good idea. the guy i mentioned got a letter today just to say that it'd been received, was being given 'serious consideration' and a formal response would come in time.
problem with the university is that they're a law unto themselves. they'll make u pay whatever they want, and just withold your degree if u refuse. i know no1 who'd put up a real fight against that kind of pressure, since it would involve going to cout, paying legal fees, plenty of hassle, a postponment of receiving your degree, no guarantee of victory and then they might just withold it forever more to spite you if u lose!
if u can get a lawyer involved now, with little hassle, i say go for it!
problem with the university is that they're a law unto themselves. they'll make u pay whatever they want, and just withold your degree if u refuse. i know no1 who'd put up a real fight against that kind of pressure, since it would involve going to cout, paying legal fees, plenty of hassle, a postponment of receiving your degree, no guarantee of victory and then they might just withold it forever more to spite you if u lose!
if u can get a lawyer involved now, with little hassle, i say go for it!
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meh, honestly im just gnna pay it, after all i did get solidworks for nothing, £35 for that ent bad at all. besides its not asif im short of money at the moment (thats what you get if you work through your gap year!). i cannot be bothered with i fight i know im gonna lose, i have better things to be doing.
btw see my replys from its and the other bloke up top in the other post here
btw see my replys from its and the other bloke up top in the other post here
dont admit anything.. but even so.. I still say that the AUP was void when they broke it and thus there were no grounds to fine u on.. Also they try to say the fact that u broke the AUP was cause in the bad connection.. I say u demand to have proper evidence of that.. cus I dont think such evidence exists.. DC++ did not break the network.. bittorent maybe.. but DC++ certainly has no more blame than normal webbrowsing..
Yes I agree with u.. its not about the money.. but its about the principle.. and for some ppl its also the money.. but in my opinion its first and for most pure principle.. they should not be allowed to determine themselves whether they were correct in issuing the fines.. it should be a 3rd party!!junior aspirin wrote:besides its not asif im short of money at the moment
It's like groundhog day all over again!
Look, if you didn't at least ask ITS for what evidence they had that you were breaking the AUP before admitting your guilt, then you're an idiot. Did anyone even check that ITS had got the right person?
Unfortunately, a crappy internet connection doesn't give you the right to infringe copyright laws.
Maybe you should be glad that ITS are giving minor fines for using a p2p program, instead of nice big fines for copyright infringement?
Look, if you didn't at least ask ITS for what evidence they had that you were breaking the AUP before admitting your guilt, then you're an idiot. Did anyone even check that ITS had got the right person?
Unfortunately, a crappy internet connection doesn't give you the right to infringe copyright laws.
Maybe you should be glad that ITS are giving minor fines for using a p2p program, instead of nice big fines for copyright infringement?
ahh yes but copyright infringement is not wat they're being accused off.. and they'd need much more solid evidence than just evidence that u have used P2P.. and since they have yet to show evidence that they're using P2P I'd say that'd be unlikely.. I still dont understand why u ppl didnt make a major fuss at the meeting.. I would have asked for evidence then and then if no evidence was probided I'd have told them sorry got the wrong guy..
but since thats in the past.. I'd continue pushing them.. they wont pull u into court as their case wont hold in court.. They'd need a lot of evidence to prove u were eligable for the fine.. Dont think they've got it.. Also the likelyhood of them having any evidence as to copyright infringement is very unlikely and would create a large media storm to pursue.. The university certainly doesnt want a media storm so will not pursue that matter.
but since thats in the past.. I'd continue pushing them.. they wont pull u into court as their case wont hold in court.. They'd need a lot of evidence to prove u were eligable for the fine.. Dont think they've got it.. Also the likelyhood of them having any evidence as to copyright infringement is very unlikely and would create a large media storm to pursue.. The university certainly doesnt want a media storm so will not pursue that matter.